by Winter Rabbit | 3/17/2010 07:33:00 PM
"Mr. Joel's Army himself," C. Peter Wagner, is in the video below. The title of it is “Native American Christian Reconciliation Ministry.”

Rick Warren's (amazingly extensive) connections with Joel's Army groups

a) Apparently being directly mentored by none other than Mr. Joel's Army himself (C. Peter Wagner) and actively teaching at Wagner's ordination mill, Fuller Seminary and cross-promotion of Wagner's and Warren's material by the two

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Below is the type of rhetoric heard in the video.

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They are GATE KEEPERS for this land... this is part of the healing for America... God told Bobby Conner that we had to COME THROUGH THEM INTO AMERICA!!!

One of the Indian leaders prays for REVIVAL to come to America and to all of the First Nation People...Bob Jones comes up... the First Nation People are the keepers of the land... they have the ability to bless the land... they are a spiritual people... when they get saved, they naturally know how to flow in the Spirit.

Furthermore, this is written by Jean Steffenson of the "Native American Resource Network," who was in the video along with "Mr. Joel's Army himself," C. Peter Wagner.

The other native leaders expressed a deep gratitude for the Word of God that came and repented for the resistance that had been built against the gospel. They welcomed King Jesus into the land to take His place and fill this land with His glorious presence. Jay shut the gate to the Babylonian spirit and made some declarations that I believe engaged the angels of God and terrified the demonic powers.

What is "the gate to the Babylonian spirit" that she believes "terrified the demonic powers?" Let's review what we know first.

First, an overview of “Reconciliation” Cultural Genocide.

Use of Reconciliation Events

Glazier is on the board of the International Reconciliation Coalition founded by John
Dawson, International President of YWAM (Youth With a Mission). The reconciliation
approach, including reconciliation walks, has been used to gain access to Native American groups in the U.S and Canada, and also to African Americans, Amish, Turkish Muslims, and other groups around the world. Link to "Palin and the Apostles" for an account of New Apostolics in a prophetic ceremony representing the shielding of Native Alaskans from interference from other churches and social services.

Reconciliation is designed to remove the generational curses and other demons which are
preventing the target group from being open to evangelization. For instance, a reconciliation walk in Turkey in 1999 was advertised as apologizing for the Crusades to the Muslim population. However, following the reconciliation walk, the New Apostolics embarked on an aggressive proselytizing campaign which included a ceremony in the Ephesus amphitheater. Organized by Ted Haggard and others and with participation of groups from Korea, they chanted Jesus is Lord for four hours in the amphitheater.

Second, let's review a reconciliation event that ended in "native artifacts and ritual items like carved masks were thrown into bonfires."

The New Apostolic Reformation was formed as an institution through the efforts of C. Peter Wagner. More details on the history of this movement are in the section "Sources of the Transformations." Wagner has developed a network of 500 Apostles, most with Apostolic networks of their own over which they have authority. In addition to this structure there is a national and international structure of "prayer warriors" overseen by Apostles. Initially named the Spiritual Warfare Network, this structure has been renamed twice, first to the United States Strategic Prayer Network (USSPN), and again recently to the United States Global Apostolic Prayer Network (USGAPN). There is also an international network under the authority of Wagner.

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However, the story moves on to one island area that remained blighted despite the miracles. This is an island on which the indigenous populations' ancestors had killed a missionary in 1867. The video shows the process through which the community prayed, fasted, and repented of this generational curse. Like other vignettes in the Transformation videos, native artifacts and ritual items like carved masks were thrown into bonfires. The descendants of the murdered (and eaten) missionary traveled to the island to attend a ceremony of repentance by the inhabitants and release them from the generational curse. The island was also miraculously renewed after the event, including the immediate cleansing of a poisonous polluted stream.

Now, what is "the gate to the Babylonian spirit" that Jean Steffenson believes "terrified the demonic powers?"

The repentance, forgiveness and declarations that took place at Plymouth Rock and the town of Plymouth, MA September 27th got the attention of God and His adversaries. Jeremiah 1:10 came to my mind as we stood at this historical and present day gateway. There were many things that took root at this gate and were spread throughout the country, some good - some bad. The pilgrims no doubt loved God and wanted to serve Him. Yet In their zeal to have religious freedom they inadvertently gave place to a religious spirit. They sought a place of liberty to practice their beliefs and they fell into that age-old trap of legalism as was evident in their ministry to the native people. On the good side was the Indian's friend, John Elliot, who brought them the gospel with
the love of God.

And just who was this "Indian's friend, John Elliot" who demanded the American Indians act "civilized" by farming, wearing English clothes, cutting their hair, cease practicing their culture, and discarding their real names for English ones?

Excerpt from "Puritans, Indians & Manifest Destiny" (Charles M. Segal and David C. Stineback. pp. 155-157.

In 1647, one year after Massachusetts launched its missionary effort, John Eliot recorded - with what must have been some embarrassment - a question put to him by Wabbakoxets, reputed to have been an old powwow: "...why did we never teach them to know God till now?...."

"It is therefore ordered and decreed, by this Court, for the honor of the eternal God, whom only we worship & serve, that no person within the jurisdiction, whether Christian or pagan, either by willful or obstinate denying the true God, or his creation or government of the world, or shall curse God, or reproach the holy religion of God, as if it were but a politic device to keep ignorant men in awe, nor shall utter any other eminent kind of blasphemy, of the like nature & degree; if any person or persons whatsoever, within our jurisdiction, shall break this law they shall be put to death."

What a perfect compliment to Joel’s Army that is.

One of the parts of their theology that is very rarely discussed--save by a few of us researchers--is that they are one of the very few groups on the planet to literally have a theological mandate for not only genocide but near omnicide--both pre- and post-Tribulation. Combined with the known use of coercive tactics and the decidedly unique interpretations of Biblical verses that claim they're part of an end-time army of "God Warriors"'s not exaggeration to state this is a potential threat to humanity.

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And if this doesn't scare you yet--these groups may have influence to the very highest levels of government and documented histories of particularly horrific genocides (ask Guatemala about the hell it endured under Gen. Rios Montt sometime)...and the largest denomination embracing "Joel's Army" theology has an estimated membership of nearly three million people...and they've rather explicitly targeted the largest Protestant denomination in the US, the Southern Baptist Convention, for total conversion from within.

To conclude, I’m reposting the first part of Opinion: American Fascists or Christian Fascists?

American fascism is the term used by Dr. James Luther Adams, who “was in Germany in 1935 and 1936 and worked with the underground anti-Nazi church.” He said that American fascists would dismantle the open society, using scripture, during “prolonged social instability or a national crisis.” Either of those conditions certainly meets the living conditions on many reservations of their social structure and their Nation. I argue from definition that "Christian fascists" or American fascists are appropriate to be applied to those who christianize Indigenous People as well as to be applied to those who committed ”the slaughters of yesteryear" for the following reasons:

Duncan Campbell Scott, an Indian Affairs Superintendent, created the term “Final Solution;” Christianizing Indigenous People has historically destroyed cultures and languages, an activity still practiced; Baer before the U.N. said, “the international community should begin to view the violation of language rights as a crime against humanity;” and, the fact that Indigenous People exist in the post Extermination stage of genocide, while the general dominant culture practices the post Extermination stage of genocide, which is Denial. To clarify, the word genocide was not created until 1944 by Raphael Lemkin, ”The term ‘Final Solution”’was not coined by the Nazis, but by Indian Affairs Superintendent Duncan Campbell Scott in April of 1910 when he referred to how he envisioned the “Indian Problem” being resolved.” Hence, Christian fascism or American fascism by definition is appropriate when discussing christianizing Indigenous People, and is appropriate to be applied to those who committed ”the slaughters of yesteryear" - strictly my own opinion. Lastly, I think both Christian fascism and American fascism should have two categories: violent fascism and non – violent fascism (for the post Extermination stage of genocide) with definitions fitting both categories and used according to the timeline. Let me explain.

I would say that Christian fascists were and are more motivated by Christendom. For example, Columbus’s first voyage in 1492 combined with his religious motivations for making it led Pope Alexander VI to issue a Papal Bull in 1493. Pope Alexander VI ordered Ferdinand and Isabella to observe and to do the following: that the primary purpose of all future voyages and ensuing discoveries of land and people was to Christianize and “overthrow” any Nations who resisted; that Columbus himself be used for the next voyage, since there was consensus among Columbus, Ferdinand, Isabella, and the Papacy with regards to spreading Christianity to the entire world; that the Indians might have been good converts; that all this was to be carried out “By the Authority of Almighty God;” that it applied to the entire world; that any possible Christian rulers were to not be overthrown; that Ferdinand and Isabella had power over such possible Christian rulers, while the Papacy had power over them and any possible Christian rulers; that overthrown Nations would have a Christian ruler put in place; that anyone who traded with anyone who overthrew a Christian ruler would be excommunicated; and that anyone who went against the Papal Bull would “Incur the wrath of Almighty God.”


From the moment of its birth Christianity had envisioned the end of the world. Saints and theologians differed on many details about the end, but few disagreements were as intense as those concerned with the nature and timing of the events involved...As word of these predictions spread, the most fundamental affairs of both Church and state were affected. And there had been no previous time in human history when ideas were able to circulate further or more rapidly, for it was in the late 1430s that Johann Gutenberg developed the technique of printing with movable type cast in molds. It has been estimated that as many as 20 million books-and an incalculable number of pamphlets and tracts-were produced and distributed in Europe between just 1450 and 1500."

I think Christian fascists, which could be an international term, have more motivations from Christendom than do American fascists.


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